Wednesday, July 12, 2006

What would Jesus pray?

Bishop Robinson's remarks at the 75th Episcopalian General Convention. --

Well, one last posting about my experience in Poland. I didn't intend to bring this up, but this story brought it back to me, so here it is.

It seemed to me, on my return, that homosexuality is now a mainstream way of life in those parts of the world that I've seen. It does seem to be mostly limited to urban centers, but even the smallest urban centers now seem to have their active enclaves. Poland, with its strong Catholic population, is not supposed to be gay-friendly, but it was there, nonetheless. Especially noticeable is that the rest of the world, heterosexuals, seem to be resigned to the fact and just ignore homosexuals and their activity even as they would teen-age lovers, homeless people, or street ministers. (I had to sit right behind two lesbians fondling each other for 9 1/2 hours; nobody else seemed to notice.)

And the church seems to be powerless to stop its rise; in fact, this article well explains how the church will become gradually "blind" to homosexuality within its ranks. (You have to read it, all the way through.)

I know we all would like to share the Truth with homosexuals, same as any other of our fellow sinners...but what to do when the "way of the world" is trying to seize the high ground from underneath you?

And does any of this have anything to do with the previous post regarding "notreligion"...or even the "cultish" idea that the church itself has reached the end of its age?

Sir C, seeking to strengthen the armor...


  1. "I know we all would like to share the Truth with homosexuals, same as any other of our fellow sinners...but what to do when the "way of the world" is trying to seize the high ground from underneath you?"

    Sir Chuck,

    The words of the writer sound very convincing and very conciliatory. It really makes you want to soften your stance of gays and lesbians. Trouble is, God hates that behavior and only by ignoring the word of God and anyone believe differently.

    Romans 1:27. and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28. And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper,

    The bible makes it clear that there are two churches:
    1. The real church whose people obey the word of God and
    2. The false church, as spoken of in Revelations.

    They will continue to paint us as bigots and there is little we can do about it except:

    Matthew 5:11. "Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. 12. "Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

    Notice the comment about scripture:

    "When I took Jesus Christ to be my lord and savior, I was speaking about a God who is not locked up in scripture 2,000 years ago, but is alive and well and working in my life as we speak. "

    Naturally, they reject certain scriptures. That is why the scripture is so important. Without God's word, they can remake God and Christ into anything they want and who can argue against them. The real church, however, will continue to hold the teachings of Christ and the Holy Spirit who inspired the other writers.

    Sir John, holding to the word.

    PS, the end of the church thing appears to be a Seventh Day Adventist site. They don’t believe in the rapture of the church.

  2. Great rejoinder, Sir John. I agree, a growing part of The Word seems to be ignored by our "church-going" brethren. Sharing it with homosexuals should be as easy as with anyone else, except they seem not to accept their lifestyle as a sin in the first place. Makes it kind of tough to get to first base with them.

    Sir C